Tony's sexuality - Discussion

[beautybecks.livejournal.com]

Hi y'all,

Just wanted to start a little healthy discussion/debate about Tony's sexuality. Do you think he is Tim-sexual, bi-sexual, homosexual, pan-sexual etc? How do you factor his on-screen relations in regards to his sexuality, particularly Jeanne Benoit?

Personally, I see Tony as being very gay and all his talk of women is over-compensating. His infactuation with Tim has been there since the very beginning. I see him being mostly celibate and having slept with women in his past until he realised he was gay and sort of stopped the sex all together. Alas, the sexual frustration he gets from working round Tim day in and day out has driven him into the arms of a few men, but he tries to forget about that. For me, the forced relationship with Jeanne Benoit actually helped sell him as gay to me, he may have fallen in love with her eventually but I think a part of that was acting and sex, sex which he was reluctant about to begin with. It was supposed to be a fake relationship to begin with but I think that can be extended to include the fact it was fake because he is gay. Cole Porter married and loved his wife but that didn't make him any less gay.

What are your thoughts?

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[schtroumph-c.livejournal.com]

Like jack_infinitude, I see Tony as bi leaning toward straight. He likes women, and I think he really loved Jeanne, or at least liked her a lot. I think he always wondered what would have happened if they met in another way, how many possible love stories he missed because he run away when it started being serious (an option he didn't have there). I think even today, he still has moments wondering where he would be in his life if everything in his relationship with Jeanne, from the meeting to the break-up, was lead by their own decisions and not someone else. But he'll never know, and I'm sure it still bother him.

Actually, I'd like her to come back, see her getting married or close to. It'll break his heart, but in a good way. Seeing her moving on, seeing that they weren't meant to be, seeing that he didn't hurt at the point her life is destroyed, he'll be able to heal correctly this time.

I think he had crushes on men, recognize some, denies other. I'm not sure if he did something with a man before, but if he did, it was nothing serious or big. I can actually see the interest in Gibbs, but it constantly moved between crush and father figure, and I honestly think that at some point, he consider the crush as hero worship, and getting away from it while seeing Gibbs more as a human being, keeping only the respect and the father figure.

As for his feelings for Tim, I think he was fascinated without understanding why since the first day, in two moments: one when McGee asked to talk to a woman for the investigation, saying she wasn't his type when Tony told him he wasn't allowed to ask her out, followed by being impressed when he got the news they needed (who left his job recently), and the other moment after the "I went with mom." Tony blocked on the tattoo, on the place where the tattoo was, and the implications. How many normal, boring, vanilla, boys scout guys go and get a tat on their ass just to please a girl they barely talked to on a phone?

And the fascination never left, as the need to get his attention, and to be sure McGee was laughing at his jokes, etc.... I think Tony realised he was crushing on him around season 5 and 6 (the whole speech in Agent Afloat is supposed to be Tony talking about himself using McGee as substitute, but later, McGee is using the same arguments to explain how much he didn't like the separation. It makes me wonder how much is Tony talking about himself and how much is Tony thinking about McGee during the summer.)

And now, season 7, he's starting to realise it's more than a simple crush, but can't get something more, so trying half-heartily to date.

[beautybecks.livejournal.com]

I like your take of the Tim/Tony relationship, the speech Tony gave Ziva in Agent Afloat, I can picture him going crazy and having nothing to keep him sane except for thoughts of McGee, except that drives him even crazier because it makes him miss him more when he shouldn't even be really missing him in the first place.

The idea of Tony half-heartedly trying to date makes me smile, thank you :)