Where does Abby fit?
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OK, I have a question. And I'm not trying to start a flame war, just get some understanding of a characterization.
It seems like a lot of the Tim-centric fics I read, whether McNozzo or otherwise, are more anti-Abby than NCIS fics in general. And the ones that drive me crazy tend to be slash fics with Tim, usually paired with Tony. I know since Abby/McGee are canon, at least past canon, that she has to be dealt with somehow. But why take the "Abby abuses poor Timmy horribly" route? Although obviously there are lots of great T2 fics out there where Abby is their best friend, so not everybody goes that path.
Maybe it's just me, but I don't see evil Abby (no matter how many spikes on her collar). Anybody have any thoughts on where evil/selfish Abby comes from? Or am I just too much of a McAbby fan to be able to see it even when I'm putting Tim with Tony.
It seems like a lot of the Tim-centric fics I read, whether McNozzo or otherwise, are more anti-Abby than NCIS fics in general. And the ones that drive me crazy tend to be slash fics with Tim, usually paired with Tony. I know since Abby/McGee are canon, at least past canon, that she has to be dealt with somehow. But why take the "Abby abuses poor Timmy horribly" route? Although obviously there are lots of great T2 fics out there where Abby is their best friend, so not everybody goes that path.
Maybe it's just me, but I don't see evil Abby (no matter how many spikes on her collar). Anybody have any thoughts on where evil/selfish Abby comes from? Or am I just too much of a McAbby fan to be able to see it even when I'm putting Tim with Tony.
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Date: 2010-05-21 09:18 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2010-05-21 09:20 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2010-05-21 09:29 pm (UTC)I am never going to understand how people can't grasp that bashing one character actually speaks really badly of the character they supposedly love. Like, okay! By implying that, for example, Abby is manipulative and evil and selfish and omg poor Timmy he's so ENSNARED, you are essentially saying that Tim is any or all of the following: a) unable to make good assessments of character, b) weak-willed, c) essentially ruled by his dick, d) has low self-esteem, e) a suckup. These are not good things! It is not rocket science!
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Date: 2010-05-21 10:12 pm (UTC)Maybe I'm just irked at Tim writers who make various characters out to be mean and evil to Poor!Timmy because that seems like it just (to use your lovely word) woobifies Tim. Jeez, the man stood up to Gibbs in Twisted Sister and stared down a room full of angry, armed prisoners in Caged. If he really wanted to tell Tony/Abby/whoever to stick it, he would.
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Date: 2010-05-21 10:23 pm (UTC)To this I say YES TO THE MILLIONTH POWER!!!!!
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Date: 2010-05-21 10:32 pm (UTC)Faith is a bad example of Abby walking over McGee. I loved that episode. I think it was something McGee would want to do and Abby enabled him to do it.
Even the dog, McGee had wanted a long time before Abby forced him to take Jethro.
There are some times McGee unable to say no to Abby pays off. Also, she can be uber-protective of him. In an early season she stopped Tony from stealing his apple from his lunchbox.
Still, I think at times she treats him like she owns him. She is his weakness. Usually she uses her powers for good. Occassionally, she toys with him. The fact that it's impossible to predict which she'll do is what makes me uncomfortable.
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Date: 2010-07-08 09:01 am (UTC)PREACH IT.
Oh wait, I mean: YES! Agreed a thousandth times over.