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kissmeprobie2010-05-21 04:11 pm
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Where does Abby fit?
OK, I have a question. And I'm not trying to start a flame war, just get some understanding of a characterization.
It seems like a lot of the Tim-centric fics I read, whether McNozzo or otherwise, are more anti-Abby than NCIS fics in general. And the ones that drive me crazy tend to be slash fics with Tim, usually paired with Tony. I know since Abby/McGee are canon, at least past canon, that she has to be dealt with somehow. But why take the "Abby abuses poor Timmy horribly" route? Although obviously there are lots of great T2 fics out there where Abby is their best friend, so not everybody goes that path.
Maybe it's just me, but I don't see evil Abby (no matter how many spikes on her collar). Anybody have any thoughts on where evil/selfish Abby comes from? Or am I just too much of a McAbby fan to be able to see it even when I'm putting Tim with Tony.
It seems like a lot of the Tim-centric fics I read, whether McNozzo or otherwise, are more anti-Abby than NCIS fics in general. And the ones that drive me crazy tend to be slash fics with Tim, usually paired with Tony. I know since Abby/McGee are canon, at least past canon, that she has to be dealt with somehow. But why take the "Abby abuses poor Timmy horribly" route? Although obviously there are lots of great T2 fics out there where Abby is their best friend, so not everybody goes that path.
Maybe it's just me, but I don't see evil Abby (no matter how many spikes on her collar). Anybody have any thoughts on where evil/selfish Abby comes from? Or am I just too much of a McAbby fan to be able to see it even when I'm putting Tim with Tony.
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Abby's unpredictability is definitely something that can be scary or difficult as well as positive. I love it, as I think it's quite true to the way people can have moods and opinions which shift a lot, but I can completely see why that might be offputting to other people!
Tony did pay the price for his behaviour with Jeanne. I still don't think Abby's behaviour requires any 'price' to be paid, though. I still don't think flirting - even flirting without intending to go any further than that - is in any way bad or something needing punishment. You're saying you don't blame Abby for you not liking her (which is your total right, of course), but you've consistently also been saying that Abby's flirting is worthy of condemnation/less liking from fandom. I... don't see how those two things are compatible. That is blaming Abby for potentially having someone like her better than she likes them, or for "making" someone do something, even though the relevant decisions aren't Abby's to make, but the person's. For example: say Gibbs does something for Abby because Abby asked him. Even if she did deliberately turn on the charm, she didn't force Gibbs to do anything. Gibbs made the decision. But you put that as Abby being manipulative, which is a different thing than you just saying you don't like it.
I also don't think she's fetish fuel. There can be some elements of that - it's a rare female character on TV who doesn't get some lingering camera shots, and someone as unusual looking as Abby tends to get them in a fetishistic way. But on the show she is not played as a fetish object; for good or bad she does her own thing and has her own life and makes her own choices. Then again I don't think it's all about sex - there's more than on some crime drama shows, but not that much, so we clearly differ there. :)