kissmeprobie | Tony's sexuality

Hi y'all,

Just wanted to start a little healthy discussion/debate about Tony's sexuality. Do you think he is Tim-sexual, bi-sexual, homosexual, pan-sexual etc? How do you factor his on-screen relations in regards to his sexuality, particularly Jeanne Benoit?

Personally, I see Tony as being very gay and all his talk of women is over-compensating. His infactuation with Tim has been there since the very beginning. I see him being mostly celibate and having slept with women in his past until he realised he was gay and sort of stopped the sex all together. Alas, the sexual frustration he gets from working round Tim day in and day out has driven him into the arms of a few men, but he tries to forget about that. For me, the forced relationship with Jeanne Benoit actually helped sell him as gay to me, he may have fallen in love with her eventually but I think a part of that was acting and sex, sex which he was reluctant about to begin with. It was supposed to be a fake relationship to begin with but I think that can be extended to include the fact it was fake because he is gay. Cole Porter married and loved his wife but that didn't make him any less gay.

What are your thoughts?

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Obviously YMMV when it comes to Jenny. She trips too many of my thingamadoogies (it's a scientific term!) for me to like her. I'd forgotten that she offered Tony his own team.

Its hard for me to see Tony as purely gay, because Tim is the only man that he reacts so strongly to. (Unless we want to get into Gibbs/DiNozzo, which I don't.) He doesn't flirt with any other men, unless it links back to Tim somehow (as we saw with McCaden.) The usual Tonytage is something like "GIRLSGIRLSGIRLSGIRLSGIRLSTimmy! look at me Timmy look at me look at me look at me!GIRLSGIRLSGIRLSGIRLSGIRLSGIRLSGIRLSGIRLSTimmyyyyy, you're not looking at me! Look at me look at me look at me," especially in the beginning. He does have a genuine interest in women, which we have to take into account, though I would definitely agree that it's become little more than a smokescreen these days.

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"GIRLSGIRLSGIRLSGIRLSGIRLSTimmy! look at me Timmy look at me look at me look at me!GIRLSGIRLSGIRLSGIRLSGIRLSGIRLSGIRLSGIRLSTimmyyyyy, you're not looking at me! Look at me look at me look at me,"

Love it :D

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He just sort of dug a hole in himself and crawled in, hoping that visions of a pouty-lipped probie wouldn't follow until he could forget about everything. Oh my fucking God, THIS so much. Tony walls away the things that trouble him, he always has, and the fact that McGee gets to him so much... Yeah, he's a big fan of Denial.

I could do a whole essay on the Jeanne situation, and just what the hell Tony was doing with it. And yeah, its definitely fucked up.

(My Tonytage [like a montage but so much better because it's TONY, hello] is happy to have been of service!)

There was definitely Italian food involved. There just HAD to be.

DiNozzo DeNial makes the most sense to me - Tony hides from his feelings. Look how long it took him to say 'I love you' to Jeanne and that was an assignment. Especially when you throw in a dash of societal homophobia, it becomes far easier for Tony (who is still insecure of himself) to retreat from someone who so clearly presses all of his buttons AND is confident in himself like our Timmy, who has visibly become more and more accepting of who HE is over the course of the show. In the face of someone who is so visibly self-confident, Tony retreats to immaturity and veiled innuendo to express how much he wants to get into Timmy's pants (and heart). And Tim indulges him in his game, but that's got something to do with Tim's own vulnerabilities and fears that maybe Tony isn't actually interested in him that way because Tim's only managed to build this self-confidence recently, so if he were to try to take it too far and learn that Tony actually doesn't want a relationship, it would probably destroy him, because here's Tony, the kind of guy who surfacely resembles the guys picked on Tim most of his life, who is interested in him, the McGeek, and it would be one more time that the bullies managed to get one on him, only this time taking away the happiness that he has workedso hard to gain (because not only would he lose his self-confidence, he'd probably have to leave the team, if not NCIS completely because he couldn't take being around that type of Tony). So they both play the game, neither one willing to take that step to the next level because they're comfortable where they are.

I liked Jenny, even her yen for getting the Frog putting our McNozzo at risk, because the whole white whale thing made her human, and I like it when the people on my TV are portrayed as being flawed, not just perfect little automatons. I just wish there had been a little more done that played her with the other members of the team instead of just Gibbs and Tony. Even her friendship with Ziva was fairly underplayed.

My analysis of Tim actually is due to self-projection on my part, since McGee started out as someone very much like who I am right now and... Yeah, let's just say Tony'd be my type as well.

And you can really see all that in their relationship, in their back and forth. The teasing nicknames that even now Tony keeps adding to the list of is one of the big things, I think. Tony not being able to pick and stick to just one nickname for him is Tony expressing his inability to openly express his feeling for Tim, while McGee basks in the fact that this guy so like the people who tormented him is clearly crushing on him, but not saying anything because of that big pounding 'what if'.

At least that's this amateur psychologist's appraisal.

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